Wednesday, February 13, 2013
Attracting Surrogate Clients to India
Every year (with the exception of last year) I take my staff to a new
place for a Christmas/Festivus dinner and a chance to see one of our
hospital partners. In 2007, it was Tijuana to visit our dental
partners, Dr Quintinella, and then the Angeles Hospital. For dinner we
decided to go to the renowned Rosarito Lobster Village called
Lorenzellos and had reservations for the 14 of us. No soon did we pull
up to the main drag where our restaurant was that our limo was
surrounded by people at least two dozen of them, banging on the limo,
trying to persuade us to eat at THEIR restaurant instead of the one we
had the reservations to. It was like something out of a zombie movie,
we found it hilarious but we dare not stop or open the door. I mean if M
Night Shyamalan were to make a zombie film with Will Ferrell, this
would be the audience reaction he would be going for. We fortunately
reached Lorenzellos, glad that the driver did not run over one of the
Latino lobster shrilling zombies, and enjoyed our festivus meal (they
even made vegan lobster for one of us). I had asked our maitre 'd about
the incident and he tells me that these "dinner wranglers" are paid
$2.00 for every patron they bring through the door. "No salary?" I ask
dumbfounded? "Nope, no salary just $2 per patron, which is then tacked
onto the patron's meal anyways. Wow, what a way to earn a living!
"Sadly though they do succeed." According to the Maitre D'. "But we
will never do that, we are Lorenzellos, we have been doing this for the
last 40 years and if good quality and great service is important to them
they will find us, if they just want a cheap meal, those hustlers can
oblige."
So, now that India has banned surrogacy for all but
hetero couples who are married for two years, these couples may
experience what we did back in Rosarito in '07. If you fit the category
and you approach more than two surrogacy companies, you will be
cyber-mobbed by the Indian surrogacy nazis. So I decided that we will
not target you with our marketing dollars. When it comes to Indian
surrogacy, we will be Lorenzellos. If you want the assistance of a
company that pioneered surrogacy in India and knows it way around the
legalities of the process then we here at PlanetHospital.com will
provide you with the impeccable service that many of our clients praise
us for and use our experience to guide you. We will also provide you
with options in Mexico, Thailand and Panama. We understand what you
need and what you are looking for and it is our pleasure to make it
happen stres free, and we will even throw in a free pizza for you (click here to see what the heck we are talking about).
Tuesday, February 12, 2013
The Nigerian Medical Tourism Scam
For a few weeks now a strange fellow came to us with a strange
request. His "client" was disfigured in an accident and wanted to have
her surgery done in discretion, Fair enough, seemed like a crazy
episode of Nip/Tuck but then it got weirder and weirder and weirder and
weirder and weirder. Till I realised it was an a Nigerian Scam (as in
the call ACTUALLY originated from Nigeria -- not a jingoistic
conclusion). Normally, for HIPAA Compliance we try not to disclose
names of clients, today I will make an exception so that scambags like
this are not allowed to fester (but this ass will probably change his
name next time around). Here is my correspondence with colour
commentary along with it:
So Mr Moore (aka: Mr Nigerian Scam artist) sent me an uworkable UK # and then a US # when it did not work.
To: Flotechline@yahoo.com
Mr Moore
Dr Feldman and I tried to call you today and was unable to reach you. The number provided to us was +4477 0006 1480. Being from the UK I re-dialed as +447710006 1480. but that went to a different bloke.
Rudy
Mr Moore
Dr Feldman and I tried to call you today and was unable to reach you. The number provided to us was +4477 0006 1480. Being from the UK I re-dialed as +447710006 1480. but that went to a different bloke.
Rudy
To Which Mr Moore, Nigerian accent and all, called and left us a message to call:
Jerry Moore
Dear Ruby,
How are you, Having discussed with my client. she has agreed to travel to Spain if China is not acceptable for you .More also i have concluded with her that the surgery services will cost a total of 5.5 million euros and she agreed to pay . Now i wish to let you know that i will offer you 20% of the fund apart from your 60,000 surgery charges to assist me cover up my part in the deal to avoid my client finding out my involvement.
However my client states that her payment shall be in cash to avoid notice as she as faced a lot of financial violation criticism after her late husband death who happens to be a formal president. She wishes to contact you to confirm exactly my discussion with her. I wish to conclude agreement with you before that. Get back to me as soon as possible.
Best Regards
Jerry Moore
How are you, Having discussed with my client. she has agreed to travel to Spain if China is not acceptable for you .More also i have concluded with her that the surgery services will cost a total of 5.5 million euros and she agreed to pay . Now i wish to let you know that i will offer you 20% of the fund apart from your 60,000 surgery charges to assist me cover up my part in the deal to avoid my client finding out my involvement.
However my client states that her payment shall be in cash to avoid notice as she as faced a lot of financial violation criticism after her late husband death who happens to be a formal president. She wishes to contact you to confirm exactly my discussion with her. I wish to conclude agreement with you before that. Get back to me as soon as possible.
Best Regards
Jerry Moore
this was my reply:
Dear Mr Moore
When I woke up this morning, I told myself how lucky and fortunate I must be to have come across your opportunity. I know there are many scam artists from Nigeria but like our former president said about Putin, I can look into your soul (mind if I call you Vlad Mr Moore? in honour of our former president?). Anyways Vlad, so sure, send us an invoice and let's really make this happen. Do you think we should bill her 1 kajillion Spanish dollars instead? Or maybe 10 Brazilian Spanish dollars? I am not sure how many zeros there are in a Brazlian but i will go on BING and look it up (google did not have this info if you can believe it, but that's why I love Bing (did I mention that I could look into Bing's soul and I would see Chandler?). Anyways, let me know if you want me to wire it to you or Western Union it to you but two things, I think you should ask the client to put the 1 Kajillion into the Spanish account or the 10 Brazilian, you are a great salesperson, you can tell me what she agrees to. Oh I just checked Bing and it seems that 10% of 10 Brazilian is 2 million samolians. We will be so rich after that, we will never have to work again? What do you plan to do with your 2 million samolians? I have always wanted to raise Emus for their eggs. Ever had an omelette with emu eggs? It's tough to crack but it is so worth it. I usually smash it against my forehead that does the trick. I am also thinking of hiring Robert DiNiro to be in a short film. I was told that DiNiro can make reading the phone book interesting and so I want to test that theory out and see if it is so. I can already picture it by the time he gets to W he would be like Wong, Ann, Wong, Andy, Wong, Bill...and then he would look at the camera and do that face he does from Taxi Driver (you know the "hey are you talking to me?" face) and say "hey that's a lot of Wong numbers." Won't that be awesome Vlad? Anyways, well, I gotta go, I need to milk some goats for my coffee because I am all out of coffee mate.
Well I thought he would live me the F alone after that rant but Noooo...here is what this genius comes up with.
From: Jerry Moore <flotechline@yahoo.com>
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 14:36:13 -0800 (PST)
To: Rudy Rupak<rudy@planethospital.com>
Subject: Re: tried to call you
Dear Ruby,
I called you but unfortunately your were not available. I appreciate your kind words, thank you so much. I have a confession to make and that is I see your soul too and it is very kind and help-worthy. However, I must say that I spoke to your competitors also such as Medjourneys and the Kiranclinic and they said that they would be willing to pay me 25% of the 10 Brasilian Spanish Dollars they would earn. However, getting them to commit to a deposit was frustrating, they sent me a purchase order showing their good intention but if you can beat them to it by sending me $10,000 by western union in good faith then the deal is yours and I would honor my commitments to you and you can pay me less than what Medretreat offered. If this is suitable, please send $9,999 to my accountant, Mr Femi Kumle in Lagos Nigeria. You have 4 hours to comply to this request.
Thanks
Jerry Moore
Well you have to give him kudos for trying. So I western unioned $10 to this guy but first I had to get his address and contact details and once I succeeded I told Western Union yes it is scam but I am going forward with it so that they can arrest the f)*&knuts when he tried to claim it.
I wonder how Nigerian Prison is treating my friend Vlad.
I wonder if they give PhDs out for suffering fools gladly.
Monday, February 4, 2013
So long Surrogacy in India, Hello Surrogacy in Mexico and Thailand
To learn more about Surrogacy Mexico, visit our landing page www.mexicansurrogacy.com
I am developing a distinction of becoming a professional pioneer. First I pioneered medical tourism, then Indian surrogacy for western patients, then gay surrogacy in India, surrogacy in Panama, the first HIV surrogacy, kidney transplants with a global donor exchange, micro insurance, and who knows what else. Now I get to pioneer surrogacy in Mexico and Thailand all while watching surrogacy in India unravel spectacularly.
To be fair, surrogacy in Thailand has been going on for about a year, but we have improved the process so that instead of it taking 10 weeks to leave with a baby, it will now take less than 5. In Mexico, we have actually managed to make the costs as cheap as India when you take air, hotel, and visas into consideration. I am saddened to see this latest crap circus come blazing out of the poop shoot of Indian bureaucracy because it ruined the plans of so many people, but we are certainly not surprised. India was given a golden opportunity for medical tourism but their archaic visa system has hurt us, and medical tourism, consistently. One only has to look at my boycott of India (see my Linked In profile) in 2011 to protest against the Texas Indian Consulate office (which subsequently changed its ways and was disciplined). I was always pissed off when Indians received a better price for many procedures over foreign patients, and encountering shady operators in India such as www.kiranclinic.com and Dr Shevani’s latest. I am also having to face a lot of sad and confused would be parents who have already started to the process in India but thank goodness for awesome people like Hari at www.indiansurrogacylaw.com who has helped assuage the fears of our clients.
Now onto the good news about Thailand and Mexico. Surrogacy without an egg donor in Thailand is going to cost $38,000 from start to finish and in Mexico it will cost $36,500. This does not include the consular fees, travel, hotel, twins, and complications with pregnancies or the baby. It used to cost $28,000 to go to India without a donor, which means when you add travel, air and hotel twice one could easily end up paying $8,000 more. We think most of our Australian and Asian would-be parents will go to Thailand and our US and Canadian would-be parents will be going to Mexico (“Cancun baby! Woohoo” takes on a whole new meaning now doesn’t it?).
Now Thailand and Mexico is not without its problems either. I can tell you crazy stories about Thailand that would leave you appalled (see my Facebook page about the story in which a street vendor pretended I damaged one of their products and tried to shake me down and when I refused to pay he tried to assault me). And I have had countless would-be parents tell us that they were concerned by the violence in Mexico. Let me assure you but we are there to minimize problems for you. In Thailand we have a remarkable concierge set up already who will be there for you from the moment you land to the moment you leave and we also have serviced apartments just for our medical tourists. In Mexico, you (or your donor)
will do the egg retrieval in Cancun and the transfer in Villahermosa (an hour’s flight from Cancun or a two hour direct flights from Houston). While I would be a jackass to deny there is violence in Mexico I would say with confidence that, unlike Miami, tourists are not being targeted (ouch!) and besides we have an awesome concierge in Cancun already (we will have one in Villahermosa way before the first birth happens). We have pioneered other destinations, assessed potential problems, and now we feel confident and safe about our choices, and so we hope you will take our over 10 years of experience into account when working with us.
Ole! And Sawasdee khap!
Hey Surrogacy Competition!
A word to our competitors. Be decent and build your own opportunity but do not try to leach off of us. We have signed exclusives with our clinic already while you were trying to figure out what hit you. Some of you have pretended to be would-be parents so that you can try to glean information out of us as to which clinics we are working with etc. There is only one word to describe people like you and that word is THIEF. You are stealing our research and efforts but most of all you are stealing our TIME. Time that we would use working with legitimate would be parents.
We take comfort in the fact that our would-be parents have more ethics than you to know that PlanetHospital is the one who started the surrogacy programs in Mexico and put together an effective program in Thailand long before you anticipated the problem you are facing in India and while you were pathetically trying to convince patients to disregard the new rules in India, that somehow everything will be okay.
Here are a few nuggets we received so that they know who you are.
Surrogacy in Mexico: Starting at $36,500
Surrogacy in Mexico is simple and very cost effective. The process starts in Cancun where the IVF and transfer takes place, and ends in Villahermosa where the delivery happens, and then two weeks later, you can take your baby home. That’s it. No hassles with exit visas or endless bureaucracy.
Cancun has egg donors from all around the world and costs $5,000 (more if you are looking for a certain type such as “Asian, Jewish, very tall, certain blood types, etc.).
For our hetero couples, you can come to Cancun for a 16 day vacation for the stimulation, ivf and retrieval; or come for a weekend and get your meds and then return 10 days later for the retrieval and IVF. Or you can work with our partner clinic in Los Angeles and get the embryos created in Los Angeles and shipped to Cancun for the transfer (we can arrange that of course).
For our gay clients, you can choose a donor, bring a donor, or create embryos here in the US and ship to Cancun. You can also come to Cancun for a day for your semen deposit or have it shipped (we can arrange that of course).
For those of you affected by infectious diseases (such as Hepatitis or HIV+), we can offer sperm washing but the embryos will have to be created in Los Angeles, and finally for those who want gender selection we can offer that too.
The quote includes:
Stage 2 & 3
What’s not included (so you would pay for these if you need them):
Ok, so we said “Starting At” $36,500. What’s not included?
Other advantages of Mexico (that you could not get in India) other than proximity.
We can tell you the gender of your baby (so you no longer have to paint the baby’s room yellow).
No visa hassles
No uncertainties
Clean, modern, hospitals.
Surrogacy in Thailand, starting at $38,000
Surrogacy in Mexico is simple and very cost effective. The process starts in Cancun where the IVF and transfer takes place, and ends in Villahermosa where the delivery happens, and then two weeks later, you can take your baby home. That’s it. No hassles with exit visas or endless bureaucracy.
Cancun has egg donors from all around the world and costs $5,000 (more if you are looking for a certain type such as “Asian, Jewish, very tall, certain blood types, etc.).
For our hetero couples, you can come to Cancun for a 16 day vacation for the stimulation, ivf and retrieval; or come for a weekend and get your meds and then return 10 days later for the retrieval and IVF. Or you can work with our partner clinic in Los Angeles and get the embryos created in Los Angeles and shipped to Cancun for the transfer (we can arrange that of course).
For our gay clients, you can choose a donor, bring a donor, or create embryos here in the US and ship to Cancun. You can also come to Cancun for a day for your semen deposit or have it shipped (we can arrange that of course).
For those of you affected by infectious diseases (such as Hepatitis or HIV+), we can offer sperm washing but the embryos will have to be created in Los Angeles, and finally for those who want gender selection we can offer that too.
Other advantages of Mexico (that you could not get in India) other than proximity.
We can tell you the gender of your baby (so you no longer have to paint the baby’s room yellow).
No visa hassles
No uncertainties
Clean, modern, hospitals.
I am developing a distinction of becoming a professional pioneer. First I pioneered medical tourism, then Indian surrogacy for western patients, then gay surrogacy in India, surrogacy in Panama, the first HIV surrogacy, kidney transplants with a global donor exchange, micro insurance, and who knows what else. Now I get to pioneer surrogacy in Mexico and Thailand all while watching surrogacy in India unravel spectacularly.
To be fair, surrogacy in Thailand has been going on for about a year, but we have improved the process so that instead of it taking 10 weeks to leave with a baby, it will now take less than 5. In Mexico, we have actually managed to make the costs as cheap as India when you take air, hotel, and visas into consideration. I am saddened to see this latest crap circus come blazing out of the poop shoot of Indian bureaucracy because it ruined the plans of so many people, but we are certainly not surprised. India was given a golden opportunity for medical tourism but their archaic visa system has hurt us, and medical tourism, consistently. One only has to look at my boycott of India (see my Linked In profile) in 2011 to protest against the Texas Indian Consulate office (which subsequently changed its ways and was disciplined). I was always pissed off when Indians received a better price for many procedures over foreign patients, and encountering shady operators in India such as www.kiranclinic.com and Dr Shevani’s latest. I am also having to face a lot of sad and confused would be parents who have already started to the process in India but thank goodness for awesome people like Hari at www.indiansurrogacylaw.com who has helped assuage the fears of our clients.
Now onto the good news about Thailand and Mexico. Surrogacy without an egg donor in Thailand is going to cost $38,000 from start to finish and in Mexico it will cost $36,500. This does not include the consular fees, travel, hotel, twins, and complications with pregnancies or the baby. It used to cost $28,000 to go to India without a donor, which means when you add travel, air and hotel twice one could easily end up paying $8,000 more. We think most of our Australian and Asian would-be parents will go to Thailand and our US and Canadian would-be parents will be going to Mexico (“Cancun baby! Woohoo” takes on a whole new meaning now doesn’t it?).
Now Thailand and Mexico is not without its problems either. I can tell you crazy stories about Thailand that would leave you appalled (see my Facebook page about the story in which a street vendor pretended I damaged one of their products and tried to shake me down and when I refused to pay he tried to assault me). And I have had countless would-be parents tell us that they were concerned by the violence in Mexico. Let me assure you but we are there to minimize problems for you. In Thailand we have a remarkable concierge set up already who will be there for you from the moment you land to the moment you leave and we also have serviced apartments just for our medical tourists. In Mexico, you (or your donor)
will do the egg retrieval in Cancun and the transfer in Villahermosa (an hour’s flight from Cancun or a two hour direct flights from Houston). While I would be a jackass to deny there is violence in Mexico I would say with confidence that, unlike Miami, tourists are not being targeted (ouch!) and besides we have an awesome concierge in Cancun already (we will have one in Villahermosa way before the first birth happens). We have pioneered other destinations, assessed potential problems, and now we feel confident and safe about our choices, and so we hope you will take our over 10 years of experience into account when working with us.
Ole! And Sawasdee khap!
Hey Surrogacy Competition!
A word to our competitors. Be decent and build your own opportunity but do not try to leach off of us. We have signed exclusives with our clinic already while you were trying to figure out what hit you. Some of you have pretended to be would-be parents so that you can try to glean information out of us as to which clinics we are working with etc. There is only one word to describe people like you and that word is THIEF. You are stealing our research and efforts but most of all you are stealing our TIME. Time that we would use working with legitimate would be parents.
We take comfort in the fact that our would-be parents have more ethics than you to know that PlanetHospital is the one who started the surrogacy programs in Mexico and put together an effective program in Thailand long before you anticipated the problem you are facing in India and while you were pathetically trying to convince patients to disregard the new rules in India, that somehow everything will be okay.
Here are a few nuggets we received so that they know who you are.
Surrogacy in Mexico: Starting at $36,500
Surrogacy in Mexico is simple and very cost effective. The process starts in Cancun where the IVF and transfer takes place, and ends in Villahermosa where the delivery happens, and then two weeks later, you can take your baby home. That’s it. No hassles with exit visas or endless bureaucracy.
Cancun has egg donors from all around the world and costs $5,000 (more if you are looking for a certain type such as “Asian, Jewish, very tall, certain blood types, etc.).
For our hetero couples, you can come to Cancun for a 16 day vacation for the stimulation, ivf and retrieval; or come for a weekend and get your meds and then return 10 days later for the retrieval and IVF. Or you can work with our partner clinic in Los Angeles and get the embryos created in Los Angeles and shipped to Cancun for the transfer (we can arrange that of course).
For our gay clients, you can choose a donor, bring a donor, or create embryos here in the US and ship to Cancun. You can also come to Cancun for a day for your semen deposit or have it shipped (we can arrange that of course).
For those of you affected by infectious diseases (such as Hepatitis or HIV+), we can offer sperm washing but the embryos will have to be created in Los Angeles, and finally for those who want gender selection we can offer that too.
The quote includes:
- IVF
- Fertility Medications for a woman under 36 with normal health conditions or a donor
- Ovum pick up
- Transfer of two embryos (5 day blastocyst)
- Surrogate recruitment
- Surrogate insurance
- Surrogate travel and accommodations
- Embryo storage for 4 months
- Frozen embryo transfer if required (you have to pay for the surrogate’s
- travel though)
- Pregnancy tests
- Legal
Stage 2 & 3
- Surrogate monitoring
- Surrogate compensation
- Surrogate meal allowance and medications
- Medical monitoring and supervision
- Delivery (C section)
- Birth Certificate and notary
What’s not included (so you would pay for these if you need them):
- Initial lab tests (except for donor) – If you want to do this at the clinic it is $500 for men and $1200 for women (but a woman should do this in their own country and insurance might cover it).
- Egg donor if required (Egg donors are usually $5000 but unusual requests are higher).
- Embryo of Sperm Shipping ($2,000)
- Semen washing ($3.500)
- Gender selection ($1,500 for sperm sorting, this leaves you with more embryos but less certainty if a male is desired; or $6,000 for PGD which almost guarantees a male but reduces the # of embroys.
- PGD (Genetic tests, quoted based on what you want)
- Complications related to the child at birth (paid to hospital but reimbursed by insurance)
- Surrogate insurance ($1000/trimester, covers all complications)
- 3rd party supervision of the clinic (this is where PlanetHospital verifies that the process is taking place. May not be required since your funds are in escrow, but if you want additional peace of mind then this is the option for you.
Ok, so we said “Starting At” $36,500. What’s not included?
Other advantages of Mexico (that you could not get in India) other than proximity.
We can tell you the gender of your baby (so you no longer have to paint the baby’s room yellow).
No visa hassles
No uncertainties
Clean, modern, hospitals.
Surrogacy in Thailand, starting at $38,000
Surrogacy in Mexico is simple and very cost effective. The process starts in Cancun where the IVF and transfer takes place, and ends in Villahermosa where the delivery happens, and then two weeks later, you can take your baby home. That’s it. No hassles with exit visas or endless bureaucracy.
Cancun has egg donors from all around the world and costs $5,000 (more if you are looking for a certain type such as “Asian, Jewish, very tall, certain blood types, etc.).
For our hetero couples, you can come to Cancun for a 16 day vacation for the stimulation, ivf and retrieval; or come for a weekend and get your meds and then return 10 days later for the retrieval and IVF. Or you can work with our partner clinic in Los Angeles and get the embryos created in Los Angeles and shipped to Cancun for the transfer (we can arrange that of course).
For our gay clients, you can choose a donor, bring a donor, or create embryos here in the US and ship to Cancun. You can also come to Cancun for a day for your semen deposit or have it shipped (we can arrange that of course).
For those of you affected by infectious diseases (such as Hepatitis or HIV+), we can offer sperm washing but the embryos will have to be created in Los Angeles, and finally for those who want gender selection we can offer that too.
Other advantages of Mexico (that you could not get in India) other than proximity.
We can tell you the gender of your baby (so you no longer have to paint the baby’s room yellow).
No visa hassles
No uncertainties
Clean, modern, hospitals.
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